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Me and Mr. Ham

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I recently caused a bit of a dustup with my Patheos post about Ken Ham: “Creationist Ken Ham versus the Truth.”

Mr. Ham was kind enough to respond on his Facebook page and The Christian Post wrote up the story in “Ken Ham Calls Progressive Christians ‘More Dangerous’ Than Atheists After Criticism He’s Driving Believers Away.”

Tyler Francke over at God of Evolution provides a nice overview of this entire mess as well as some good thoughts about the debate in general in his piece “The fun continues in the run-up to the Bill Nye-Ken Ham ‘debate’.”

Since the whole evolution/creation debate is now at the forefront of my online life, I thought I’d repost a list I provided about a year ago in my post “Follow-Up: Can you be a Christian and still believe … ?” In that post I provided a few resources for learning more about the relationship between evolution, Christianity and the Bible:

It’s also important to properly understand what evolution is and what it isn’t. To that end a great starting point is, coincidentally, “What Evolution Is” by Ernst Mayr.

Finally, for a historical examination of the intellectual origins and development of anti-evolutionism in America, I suggest Ronald Numbers’ book “The Creationists: From Scientific Creationism to Intelligent Design.”

I don’t expect these resources to change a hardcore Young Earth Creationist’s mind, but if you’re open to intellectual engagement with science and the Bible, I think they offer a valuable starting point for better understanding God’s creation.

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3 responses to “Me and Mr. Ham”

  1. Tyler Francke Avatar
    Tyler Francke

    Hey Dan! Thanks for posting the link to GOE. Also appreciated the link to Hammy’s original Facebook post. My favorite part was how, in the original post, K‑Ham says, “Wycliffe was burned at the stake because of his stand on the Word of God.” In reality (a land Ham rarely visits), Wycliffe died of a stroke in his mid-60s. 

    Now, to his credit, K‑Ham corrected himself with a comment below that says, “Just a clarification: Wycliffe died of natural causes, and later the Catholic Church dug up his bones, burned them, and tossed his ashes into the river Swift” (an accurate.statement).

    I have noticed, in my reporter days, that the media outlets that call their corrections “clarifications” are the ones that are too arrogant and stubborn to admit that they are wrong, but I’m sure that’s not what’s going on in this case. 🙂 Peace, brother.

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  2. Guess newspapers will quote anybody these days… | Tyler J. Francke

    […] Then there was this (written by a friend of mine), which prompted this, which was followed by this, then this, then this. […]

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  3. Dan Avatar
    Dan

    Thanks Tyler. I was going to be all over the Wycliffe myth if he hadn’t “clarified” it. But that sure takes the wind out of the sails of his point: Stand up for you beliefs and be willing to die for them, just like Wycliffe! Oh wait … err … be willing to be exhumed and burned for your beliefs!

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